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		<title>By: cstem</title>
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		<title>By: Lee C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 22:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is really behind any other biotic risks: 

If one understands the ecological principles of food web trophic levels, then one should understand that a consequence of our ever increasing population, relative to the essential biodiversity of higher life form conducive natural ecosystems, is that we&#039;re causing the extinction of an alarming number of other life forms daily just to support our own biomass.  In increasing the biomass of a lesser number of organisms to support our own biomass (e.g. cows, chickens, corn, beans, tomatoes, wheat, ...), we&#039;re decreasing the biomass of the many other organisms we&#039;re not intelligent enough to recognize the need for, and (among other issues) increasing the pathogens that function to help balance food web trophic levels.  That is, we&#039;re systematically diminishing the biodiversity of the natural biological communities, and in so doing are destabilizing nature&#039;s infrastructure that is keeping us alive. 

The key factors of healthy ecosystems (in the sense of being conducive to human existence) are sustainable long term productivity through extensive biodiversity to exploit all the ecological niches (in time, space, and kind), and relative stability through the overall balance of ecological processes in minimizing ecosystem state shifts.  This more complete utilization of limiting resources at higher diversity increases resource retention through more thorough and efficient recycling increasing productivity, and the balance of inherently more intricate ecological processes promote stabilization.  

For a better understanding of how we are jeopardizing the shorter term state of human existence on Earth, see the article Natural World Consciousness at achinook.com

Will objective understanding or subjective beliefs prevail? 

Lee C</description>
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<p>If one understands the ecological principles of food web trophic levels, then one should understand that a consequence of our ever increasing population, relative to the essential biodiversity of higher life form conducive natural ecosystems, is that we&#8217;re causing the extinction of an alarming number of other life forms daily just to support our own biomass.  In increasing the biomass of a lesser number of organisms to support our own biomass (e.g. cows, chickens, corn, beans, tomatoes, wheat, &#8230;), we&#8217;re decreasing the biomass of the many other organisms we&#8217;re not intelligent enough to recognize the need for, and (among other issues) increasing the pathogens that function to help balance food web trophic levels.  That is, we&#8217;re systematically diminishing the biodiversity of the natural biological communities, and in so doing are destabilizing nature&#8217;s infrastructure that is keeping us alive. </p>
<p>The key factors of healthy ecosystems (in the sense of being conducive to human existence) are sustainable long term productivity through extensive biodiversity to exploit all the ecological niches (in time, space, and kind), and relative stability through the overall balance of ecological processes in minimizing ecosystem state shifts.  This more complete utilization of limiting resources at higher diversity increases resource retention through more thorough and efficient recycling increasing productivity, and the balance of inherently more intricate ecological processes promote stabilization.  </p>
<p>For a better understanding of how we are jeopardizing the shorter term state of human existence on Earth, see the article Natural World Consciousness at achinook.com</p>
<p>Will objective understanding or subjective beliefs prevail? </p>
<p>Lee C</p>
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		<title>By: Mik Evans</title>
		<link>http://www.conservationmeasures.org/initiatives/threats-actions-taxonomies/threats-taxonomy/comment-page-1#comment-585</link>
		<dc:creator>Mik Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 11:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Land abandonment&#039; is a threat at many traditionally-managed agricultural or forest sites in Europe, Middle East and Asia. Currently we advise users of BirdLife&#039;s World Bird Database (our sites database for Important Bird Areas) to classify this threat as 7.3 (&#039;Natural system moodifications &gt; Other&#039;), since this seems to be the nearest category, however the current wording makes it clear that Other = Too Much Management... whereas the threat here is Too Little [Traditional] Management... it would be appreciated if IUCN/CMP could alter the wording/definition/explanation of this category, to better capture this sense too. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Land abandonment&#8217; is a threat at many traditionally-managed agricultural or forest sites in Europe, Middle East and Asia. Currently we advise users of BirdLife&#8217;s World Bird Database (our sites database for Important Bird Areas) to classify this threat as 7.3 (&#8216;Natural system moodifications &gt; Other&#8217;), since this seems to be the nearest category, however the current wording makes it clear that Other = Too Much Management&#8230; whereas the threat here is Too Little [Traditional] Management&#8230; it would be appreciated if IUCN/CMP could alter the wording/definition/explanation of this category, to better capture this sense too. Thanks.</p>
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